that's the fourth amendment against the unreal. that's the fifth amendment, which is your right to remain silent. that's the sixth amendment. your right to an attorney, and he's going to terminate the constitution? >> yeah, if he wins, god forbid, would you feel safe in this country? >> howard, i'm doing everything i can to make sure he does not win. >> vice president kamala harris gets on the last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, new polling on the state of the race one night out from election night. what the harris campaign is saying about explosive new reporting that donald trump secretly sent covid tests to vladimir putin in 2020. then vice presidential harris lays out big plans for expanding medicare to cover in- home senior care. plus the latest on hurricane milton as it barrels towards florida's west coast. the 11th hour gets underway on

this tuesday night. good evening once again, i'm stephanie ruhle. tonight we're tracking hurricane milton, the extremely dangerous category 5 storm that's likely to make landfall in florida in just about 24 hours. we'll have much more on the storm in a moment. but we are also just four weeks out from election day as they say game on. if you have not registered to vote yet, you're running out of time. today is the deadline to register in new mexico. tomorrow is the deadline in missouri. a new poll from the new york times in sienna has good news for vice president harris, showing her leading donald trump by three points, which is inside the margin of error. more voters see her as the change candidate over donald trump. 46 to 44% also within the margin of error. my colleague, garrett haake has more. >> reporter: tonight, vice presidential harris telling abc she wouldn't change anything president biden did. >> would you have done

something differently than president biden during the past four years? >> there is not a thing that comes in had mind of being a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. >> reporter: later saying she would name them to his cabinet. calling it her dumbest answer so far. and biden, the worst president in history. on cbs, harris was pressed on her record about the border. >> was it mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you did? >> it is a long standing problem. we have been offering solutions. >> but the numbers did quadruple? >> the numbers today because of what we have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. >> reporter: new data obtained by nbc news showed there were

54,000 illegal border crossings last month. the lowest number in three years. bob woodward wrote in a new book that former president trump secretly sent russian putin covid tests for his personal use in 2020. please don't tell anybody you sent these to me, says putin, who told trump. i don't care, trump implied, citing an unnamed aid who claimed he may have spoken to putin as many as seven times since leaving the white house. they have not confirmed his reporting. the trump campaign responding in part, "none of these made up stories by bob woodward are true." harris slamming trump today. >> everybody was scrambling to get these kits, the tests. this guy who was president of the united states is sending them to russia to a murderous dictator for his personal use? >> with that, let's get smarter with the help of the lead off panel tonight. jonathan martin is here for politico. david rutgers joins us, senior

writer at dispatch, and the reporter for owe 'tis. all right, evan, vp harris, everywhere, all at once. she is talking about the different audiences from call her daddy, to the view, to howard stern, to stephen colbert. what do you make republican arguments that it is only the friendly viewers? she went on "60 minutes" last night, and republicans jumped all over it, saying she did a terrible job? >> i mean donald trump decided not to go on "60 minutes" to take the tough questions. vice president harris is doing a strategy that makes a lot of sense. you speak to a number of voters, where you find them, things like that podcast you mentioned. it has a huge audience of people, young women, specifically who harris needs to speak to. this is what you're used to seeing from the presidential candidate at this time of the year and talking to the audience, which is less normal for this time of the year and

for this campaign. i don't see anything too surprising about them getting out as you can and anywhere you can right now. >> but there is a double standard, right? all the media pressure on v.p. harris. last year joe biden skipped the super bowl interview, and he got absolutely e crushed for it. how come with donald trump skips 60 minutes, a 50-year-old tradition, nobody blinks? >> well, i think there should be more coverage of trump for not doing 60 minutes, for not doing a debate in october, and mostly doing some sort of a home team interview on a different cable network. and that said, let's go back though. i mean the biden was facing questions about his capacity to run for re-election and serve four and a half more years as president, doing very little tv interviews at the time. that's the reason why biden faced questions about why won't you do even the super bowl interview, which is kind of the

layup interview with a huge audience. i think it's the context of the moment that mattered then. that's water under the bridge now. but i think at the time of the issue is biden proving the capacity for four and a half more years where they will turn out to be a pretty good one. >> and let's talk about his book, which says donald trump sent covid tests to vladimir putin for his personal use during the pandemic. the height of the pandemic. since leaving office, trump and putin have spoken a whole bunch of times. how can any voter believe that he would stand up to putin and put the american people first when you learn something like that? >> i don't know if you need to learn something like that to question whether or not the president is going to stand up to putin if he is re-elected in office again. what's really interesting here is if these reports are true. the united states is leading the effort to help ukraine

defend itself against slaw's invasion. here you have a former president who has questioned the level of support from the united states and what they're giving to kyiv, speaking to vladimir putin, who is a major adversary of the united states. and that is the more news worthy aspect of this president, the former president who was always very tight with putin in a way that he would not allow himself to be tight with the other autocrats. that's just something that we already know. but the other piece of information will put into question how he would function if re-elected, given he would take over a government that has been aiding ukraine by the billions in the state of policy has been we're helping ukraine win and not just end the war. it looks like something the former president has been preparing for for some time. >> and jonathan, can voters be

paying a lot more to that? they do not rank as the top priority for the average american voter. given what david just laid out, kind of seems like it should be? >> yeah. i think for the certain kind of voter that i'm thinking of that david is quite familiar with because i think some of the readers will have to dispatch them in this category, which people who cannot abide the thought of voting for donald trump, but they are not quite sure they could get there to pull the lever for kamala harris. right now they're thinking about maybe i skipped the top line or perhaps write somebody in. i don't know if i could vote for somebody as liberal as harris. but boy, i think with that kind of voter, especially the more intellectually curious and sophisticated voter in that category. the putin story to me is enormously helpful because that's what the alternative is to kamala harris. it's a binary choice. if you're not voting for kamala

harris, you are helping somebody who has a real cozy relationship with one of the worst authoritarian leaders in the world right now. and that is the question these voters, hundreds of thousands of them who were kind of traditional republicans might have voted for george w. bush. what can they do? can they bring themselves to actually a vote for harris? and actually voting for harris. where i think that is the kind of thing that we'll speak to that in that demographic. >> when i close my eyes and i think about the profile of the voters, the picture of mitt romney will come to mind. we just learned yet again today that i heard it a few months ago that they do not plan to endorse v.p. kamala harris. does that surprise you in any way? given exactly the person or profile that he just laid out?

>> well, i'm not sure the harris campaign is too concerned about romney's endorsement specifically. picking up a lot of endorsement specifically along the lines of the ones jonathan was talking about. i'll say we've had some reporting in notice recently. my colleague who went out to arizona and really did a story about how important this electorate is to harris, the state where the math has changed and it is more voting than it was in 2020 when joe biden won it. now the campaign in arizona, it really needs these republicans who don't like trump to not just hold their nose and not vote for president, but to go for her. and they are doing the active steps to try to make that happen, but it's the uphill climb and a tough thing to ask anybody to do. this is the biggest challenge he's facing right now. >> david, donald trump and j.d. vance jumped on the comment that she couldn't think of anything that she would do

differently than biden. and that is not his policy, but his age. >> that is not exactly true and they were really upset with the leadership on the economy and inflation that would wrangle down, having them rethinking how they thought about trump during the pandemic. when you're running as the change candidate, even though harris has a good case to make there as you pointed out the new york times, that she has sort of reclaimed that mantle in that poll. when you're given that kind of question, you want to give voters the idea, even if harris wasn't in this position necessarily. even if biden's numbers were hovering just under 50 as opposed to just above 40 that you're going to be a different kind of leader. now she's indicated that in so

much of the way she has operated the campaign and the policies she's proposed in the way she's going after the republican vote. but it's the kind of thing when you're wanting to answer it in a better way as the matter of politics. >> yes, but the reason why people weren't feeling great about the economy six months ago when asked about it under biden because interest rates were higher and inflation were worse. both of those things have changed without her offering dramatically different policy solutions. >> and prices had not yet gone down where they will over time. the cooling of inflation is a big deal as you're right to point that out and as they do and as we all do. and now look, vice president harris will lead in most of the polls. but i'm in pennsylvania. i've been talking to democrats the past few days as i will the rest of the week, as i travel

with my colleagues from west to east from pittsburgh to philadelphia. everybody is working hard on the ground on the democratic side. they feel cautiously optimistic. but they tell me it's a coin flip and not something in which they feel comfortably ahead. >> understood though as they have not offered the single solution that would lower prices. jonathan, today on the view, v.p. harris was asked about all the lies they were spreading. i want you to watch this. what do you think the affects of these lives are? why is he doing this? >> it is profound and it is the height of irresponsibility, frankly lives are literally at stake right now. the idea that somebody would be playing political games for the sake of himself, but this is so consistent about donald trump. he'll put himself before the needs of others.

i fear he really lacks empathy on the basic level to care about the suffering of the other people then understood the role of the leader, it's not to beat people down, but to lift them up, especially in our time of crisis. >> she may be right, but donald trump never promised or said he was ever going to be empathetic, where he is telling these lives for a reason. it may be deplorable, but will it work for him politically? >> this is what he knows and the common denominator in politics that trump didn't discover, but obviously he's tapping into it in an unsettled way, which is they are taking benefits from you deserving american, in your time of need, giving them to somebody who is less deserving.

it is sort of an old school one- on-one type politics. they wouldn't do it if they think it worked. what's different here, trump tells these lies in such an incredibly flamboyant and bold and frankly shameless way that, you know, it is just preposterous. and here is some of the stuff to find it, but find what he's doing to be somewhat offensive. the challenge is folks believe in this stuff, which is pushing out all kinds of crap. you know, does that actually have some impact on folks who are still up for grabs voter wise? i tend to think the people who believe what he's saying, stephanie, 90% of them were already going to vote for trump

in the first place. if you believe that fema is fore saking american innocence in an hour of need for some political reason, then boy, you're in that column to start with. >> i would have asked you more questions. but the fact he brought the complex. lizard brain to the 11th hour tonight, he'll get the last word in the segment. when we come back, many of the same people who just went through the destruction are preparing for another powerful storm. lester holt is in florida with a look at how people are preparing and evacuating ahead of hurricane milton. tonight, time is running out with a ferocious category 5 hurricane milton heading straight for the florida gulf coast. >> you must leave. i'm not asking you to leave, but i'm telling you, you must

leave. >> reporter: police blasting out last-minute notices to evacuate. there are signs many here are heaving the dire warnings. >> absolutely you'll need to leave now. whatever we could get in my car. >> reporter: bumper-to-bumper traffic heading out of town, while some of the region's most iconic communities will look like ghost towns. in st. pete beach, we found the streets mostly empty today, except for piles of debris from helene. >> this is amazing. the pile of debris is everywhere. >> it's mountains everywhere. they seem to be growing. >> reporter: jim kill patrick showing me what they are up against. the piles of debris and stacks like this here in the barrier islands were created in the aftermath of the last hurricane. officials thought they would have time to get rid of it. but then they found out about

milton. >> reporter: trucks are staged all over the area to make as much as possible before milton barrels in. but chief kilpatrick says there is not enough time to clear it all. >> this is amazing. collected from the streets of the barrier islands. >> that's right. all household items that were put to the curb for the first storm. >> i'm looking at a 12-inch long stick here. this becomes a lethal weapon? >> yes, it's a missile. with 175 miles an hour winds, that could kill somebody. >> reporter: mexico is being pummeled by heavy rain and intense winds. it's the strongest hurricane formed in the gulf of mexico since rita back in 2005. its stunning scale, apparent in this view from space. >> it's going to be a catastrophic impact particularly to two major population centers in florida. >> reporter: even orlando expects to be impacted.

disney and universal both closing their theme parks early tomorrow. while biden announced he has ankieled a planned trip overseas in order to cancel the storm. and they will look at us right now. >> reporter: that is exactly why some are leaving. >> this is debris from helene? >> yeah. >> reporter: they closed on their new home three weeks ago just before helene roared ashore. what does this house mean to you? what does it represent? >> i mean, it was going to be like our future, our long-term house, so this is pretty disappointing. >> reporter: like so many here in florida, they don't have insurance. >> we were still hoping it would go south, but we were preparing for the worst. >> please put them in your prayers tonight. when we return, vice president harris lays out big plans for the future of medicare that

could impact millions of americans. we're going to get into the details. and later the dangerous of misinformation turned recovery from hurricane helene as florida braces for another storm. we'll talk to the 11th hour just getting underway on a tuesday night.

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san francisco's leadership is failing us. that's why mark farrell is endorsing prop d. because we need to tackle our drug and homelessness crisis just like mark did as our interim mayor. mark farrell endorsing prop d, to bring the changes we need for the city we love.

san francisco's leadership is failing us. that's why mark farrell is endorsing prop d. because we need to tackle our drug and homelessness crisis just like mark did as our interim mayor. mark farrell endorsing prop d, to bring the changes we need for the city we love. v.p. harris has done a ton of interviews already this week. today, on "the view," she

revealed a big proposal. expanding medicare to cover in- home care, aimed at easing the stress on the so-called sandwich generation. >> i took care of my mother when she was sick. she was diagnosed with cancer. so it is a personal experience for me. there are so many people in our country who are right in the middle of taking their of their kids and parents. it's just impossible to do it all, especially if they work. what we will do is allow medicare to cover in-home health care. >> here to talk about it, peter spigel for the financial times and david guerra, host of the big take podcast. this is big. this isn't obamacare big, but we already have obamacare, and there are millions of americans, seniors, boomers,

who know full well while having in-home long-term care for a senior interrupts families, destroys families. how big of a deal is this? and more importantly, do you think expanding medicare drug price negotiations will pay for this? >> no. it is not going to pay for it. it's a big sandwich to use where a lot of people will not cover this, which is so critical. so there are ways to go through medicaid. a lot of people are left out, but it moves the needle. i think you have to acknowledge that. >> you know who often does this kind of word? >> children. >> immigrants. >> also true. yes. when you think about home healthcare workers, it's a huge portion of home healthcare workers are immigrants. if we suddenly had a mass deportation, there would be a problem. >> and the cost would go up.

let me argue something against you on this one though. obviously it is very important. but the problem that i have with you and what they did is to me, it's all very incremental. it is not obamacare. >> but we don't need it. >> you want the big inflation reduction act under biden. nafta under clinton. the big, you know, transformation economic view where there is a tweak in biden. she is not releasing the big boulder. how are you different from biden? she doesn't have an answer for that. >> but why does she have to be? she's in a difficult position because it's like she's in an

improv show. it's a yes and. but from a policy perspective, biden has had four massive -- okay. >> no, no, you're 100% right. >> why did she have to offer that big giant thing? >> and despite the numbers being good, still hugely unpopular on the economy. inflation has been damaging. it's still the biggest issue, and she is not resenting a vision that you'll want from the president. every democratic vision. >> okay, i'll say she's not. but do you think who is offering the disaster person, they are going to crush us economically. >> i mean you look at the potential affects of that. now we have studies for that. that doesn't bring to the fact they are doing this in perpetuity or human or psychic cost that someone would have,

so you're right. it's something that animates and fascinates many of the advisers. what you're getting at, they have not fought through with default and what the knocks of that would be to something that would dramatically affect this economy would be devastating. >> and all of the -- her plans will raise the deficit by $3 trillion. so you tell me why does he poll better on the economy? >> you got me there. she is much better on criticizing trump on his economic policy because there's a lot to criticize. now why? >> don't you think that is how joe biden got elected? >> oh, absolutely. the argument you'll hear consistently, if you remember pre-pandemic, again, it's

people with their blindfolds on. that depends on what kind of economy we're in, but there are certain people and a long time ago who believe they're going up. but the inflation thing on my mind is overwhelming everything else, and i still worry she does not have a good answer for that, and that is why -- >> because my love, there isn't a good answer for that. >> there is no role in particular. >> yes, that's why. it's not like there is a great answer and she's hiding in her pocket. there ain't one. she could say the plans worsened. >> again, she is doing well along that. i don't think she'll be presenting a vision for the economy and what clinton, obama -- everything she did

that is sort of biden plush. >> okay, so let's talk about donald trump as we talked about his venture into cryptocurrency. they found tax liens. how does anyone look at this and think this is not shady? how do we continue to hear he ran businesses, he's been a boss of bankruptcy and filled with legal issues? >> it is amazing him getting a soup and it is a low view as well. barron trump is involved in this, which we don't know what it is or what it's going to do.

how they have the time to do all of this is certainly not doing anything with this. >> the problem is worse about this thing, he used to be against cryptocurrency. >> because crypto businesses are getting enormous kinds of money. >> who will be setting the tech policy, right? >> he is going to launch kerry. >> and the thing they were talking about. those are unclean. like this to me is worse, exactly what you said. and all the tech policies will affect the lives and what will be dangerous in the late life. >> you thought you were going to argument with me on that. i like it both.

it said, "i love these two nerd balls." when we return, donald trump continues to lie. this one about hurricane relief efforts. this is very serious. the former lieutenant governor of louisiana who oversaw recovery after katrina explains why those lies can cost lives when the 11th hour continues.

ing, and they're exhausted with the lives, the selfishness, and the attempt to divide us as americans. they're ready to turn the page and i feel very optimistic about it. [ applause ] >> vice president harris kamala harris joined abc's the view to discuss her bid for the white house. and the appearance is a part of the media blitz that they will reach 20 million voters before the town hall on thursday. the harris-walz campaign cochair and the former mayor of new orleans. i'm so glad you're here as we just spoke about it a few nina blitz, from proking long-term dare at home. really big deal, but this requires congress. right? i talked to her a few weeks ago about a lot of plans she has and how is she going to pay for

these things? and what is the answer? >> she gave it today on the view. i mean first of all the idea is this. we have to create an opportunity economy to lessen the burden of cost on the american people. what is one of the biggest burdens and the biggest cost that working families have? they have elderly parents they need to take care of. in my family, i have eight brothers and sisters. my mother is 92 years old. between us, there's 38 kids. everybody is trying to get to work. they're trying to stay at home and take care of mom. this is a huge burden. if you don't fix this burden, costs are going to go up because people will eventually going to crossings, and then people can't get of the right play. we'll get it down in that bipartisan basis. joe biden won as a non-profit. >> she's actually going to propose to congress and say listen, don't you think it's a

great idea if the pharmaceutical companies stop taking advantage of people, charging us more money than they should? why don't we use the buying power to negotiate lower prices, save us some money, and put that money back into a pro- growth economy by giving hopes they need it. i think reasonable republicans will look at that and say that is a pro-growth strike that scream let's get after it. >> let's talk about the storm. you were the infrastructure coordinator in the white house. jobs being created across the country, improving roads, bridges, the whole thing. do you think the current administration and kamala harris is getting credit for this? >> first of all billions of dollars have gone on. huge numbers of the money from the private sector as well. and a lot of people are going back to work because of it.

however, it takes a long time, and the people don't see it right away. every road project you see and high-speed internet, clean energy, all of that is it coming from the administration. that takes time. everybody knew it was going to take time. so the expectation that it was going to turn into something gold and vote getting machine that's not reasonable, but it's actually happening. the country is being transformed as we speak. it's stronger because of it, and it will get better. >> i really like the golden vote getting machine. and mike bloomberg tom me politicians don't get infrastructure past because they don't get credit for it because it takes too long. but the biden administration did it. >> listen, that to me goes to the issue of the kamala kamala harris. and joe biden also said kamala harris, and he pointed his finger to me and said make sure everybody in america gets this. red states and blue states. so now we have a choice. we have donald trump who you

know is going to punish people, will not give them money or help them or hurt them, and he said it again today if they are not for him. kamala harris and joe biden saying vote for america don't vote for me, i'll do the right thing, even if you don't understand the depth of what we'll do and how long it will take. it's good for the country. that's called selfless service. so when the public has to choose in the next 30 days what kind of leader we want. who is the person that will bring us together and lift us up? who is the person that will look to the future is kamala harris. if you want the other thing, that's donald trump. and what he's doing right now in north carolina and to the folks in florida. you know i'm from louisiana. literally got beat to death. sorry, you can hear from my access. we lost 1,800 people. we lost 500,000 homes across the gulf coast. we lost 250,000 in the new orleans metropolitan area. you literally lose everything, you go back and it's gone.

all the pictures are gone, everything you need to get pulled back together and get lifted up. the last thing you need is somebody trying to separate you from your neighbors. >> why is he doing it? tell me what the political calculation is. why is he telling people and lying to them about fema? >> and the fact he is lying and the question is do you want a person who does that to be your commander in chief? he basically said he will give it to putin. is that the kind of leader you want? >> people don't know they're lying. >> yes, they do. they said listen, if you want to know what's going on the ground, i'll get there. and i was there the other day, and i saw it myself, the national guardsman and the department of defense folks. you have ngos on the ground.

one of the most beautiful things to happen because you know it and that it is amazingly human beings will come together. they have what i call angels. these people who will say i'm just a legal secretary. why am i feeding 3,000 people? i'm just a priest. how did i come to actually go rescue people in the boat? because they rushed to each other to help. the kind of leader we need in this country is the person who lifts people up to get them to do it. i don't know what bible he's reading, but it's a good leadership model too. >> all right, thank you so much for being here. >> you're welcome. >> talking about those angels, we're thinking about team rubicon, extraordinary organizations on the ground helping people. think about them and if you need help, ask for it. if you can give, please do. harris got a bump, but trump got some good news in the sun belt states.

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here to discuss the strategist, chuck roka, cohost of the latino votes. and also the strategist and founder of country over party. what do you think of these polls? >> it is a weird one, so i go on the averages. and then lost 10 points in florida, it doesn't make any sense. i do think texas is close to average, buying four or five. that is still a potential competitive, though they won't make it a target state. she had a real opportunity to take. so i take it with a grain of salt and she's behind four, five out of texas. >> charles, what do you think? >> they have one thing in

common. and all these sun belt states. guess what? they gain population and that means people move there in a lot because it is florida and arizona and texas. so it is compared to the states where they are still good in the sunshine state. much better than biden was doing. and that is the biggest difference. all to vote in the last year where it is a very dynamic vote, and it looks a lot different. >> let's say on the latino vote because harris is participating in the town hall on thursday. latinas have been moving further and further away. what does v.p. harris need to accomplish in this town hall, matt? >> well, first, chuck will

probably agree with this. latinos have been in swing population for the last ten years. many democrats have not acknowledged that and treated it more as the get out to vote population than the persuasion. both of us being from texas to hispanic voters in texas have been a swing population where they will do well one year, democrats do well in another year. so as long as democrats are treated as the population that they will need to persuade and not get out to vote and motivate, that's where i think they could do well. and it's the same list of issues that every other voter will compare about the economy and democracy, and they care about health care and the environment, and they want somebody that will be like them. that's what they will have to do to treat it as persuasion, not as a democratic base vote. >> they care about regulation too. matthew, let's be clear. you live in texas. you're from detroit. and chuck, what do you think they need? what does she need to

communicate with latinos on thursday? >> she'll need to be the old bill clinton of the 1990s, saying i feel your pain. the hardest hit by the inflation, so she needs to let them know and to come across somebody who is sane and likable. where they ended a few month hads ago. folks now will vote. you need to make sure to vote for somebody you like and trust. exactly what matthew was talking about. the average age is 27. the reason why you would see the movement is an electorate. we have not been voting as long as those in the united states, so it's easier to get to us and persuade us because we just haven't been here that long to be very loyal. our mothers and grandmothers are very loyal, but the children and the grandchildren are very much persuadable group that will need to be talked to. >> you know i was going to ask you this question because i make you the stand in for all republicans. we know they won't be voting

for donald trump as he said it over and over. but today he reiterated he would not endorse them saying he wants to keep his voice within the party. he doesn't have a voice in the party anymore. >> and i mean first of all, go detroit tigers in the series that i wanted them to win to beat the cleveland indians and you're right. but they are still my team. i think mitt romney is just like george w. bush, and i'm actually someone who worked for george w. bush and the chief strategist. i like him as a person. i think he has done great things in the aftermath of the presidency. but he's disappointing that both mitt romney and bush and condoleezza rice have not taken a stand in this election. mitt romney is delusional if he thinks he could move them in a direction he wants it to go. he has to go through the five stages of grief. he hasn't gotten to acceptance. hi has gone through sadness and bargaining, you know, and

anger. he's got to get to acceptance. until he gets to acceptance, he'll be in delusion. >> if he wants a voice in the party, chuck, wouldn't that be in a party that's no longer led by donald trump? >> it would have to be the only way that he might have a resemblance. i remember when i used to make mitt romney tv commercials putting the dog on top of the car. it was a long time ago. if he wants to have that choice, a whole lot of the parties will need to mean rate to get them to a better place. let's have those debates. there's a lot of them that will vote for kamala harris, but they will not come and sit. they want somebody with a little common sense down at the white house. >> you put the dog or them on the roof of the car. it's done for you. gentlemen, thank you. >> those were the days when the republican candidate, that was the biggest problem. >> that's right.

>> all right, gentlemen. we'll be right back. thank you for joining.

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